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            INTERVIEW DONDEP MET DAN BURISCH
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            november 2003
          
            Just so everyone knows, Dr B is now getting printouts of the thread, 
            so rest assured he knows of your questions, even if I didn´t 
            get to ask them.
          Let 
            op: '*Dan Burisch:' is waar Dan Burisch 
            zelf aan het woord komt.
          Here 
            it is: 
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            Dan Burisch: There? 
            DonDep: god yes 
            DonDep: with tears too 
            Dan Burisch: standby will connect - when you get an image, call him. 
            
            DonDep: we´re trying to do what´s right for us humans, 
            Dan 
            DonDep: I think it is very possible the people who have told you what 
            is supposed to happen or not may be misleading you 
            *Dan Burisch: Hello? 
            Dan Burisch: ID? 
            DonDep: I know all about the interaction with the MiBs, and "all 
            is not what it seems" 
            Dan Burisch: Reviewer #? 
            DonDep: Dan, it´s Dondep 
            Dan Burisch: Oh, okay...hi! 
            DonDep: really me. 
            DonDep: thanks for the smile....I´m shaking at the moment. 
            Dan Burisch: Okay...sb for a verificatiopn that this call is sent 
            authorized. 
            DonDep: your fellow humans have authorized it! 
            Dan Burisch: Okay...go ahead. 
            Dan Burisch: You have video? 
            Dan Burisch: You have video? 
            DonDep: yep! 
            DonDep: looking for the tongue emoticon! 
            Dan Burisch: Caught me eating! 
            DonDep: take a bite for me! 
            Dan Burisch: Bagels! 
            Dan Burisch: This is neat, what´s up? 
            DonDep: jus t had corned beef... 
            Dan Burisch: Cabbage? 
            Dan Burisch: I love cabbage! 
            DonDep: well, we´re standing by trying to help you decide the 
            fate of the world.....literally! 
            Dan Burisch: 
            DonDep: damn...where´s my emoticons! 
            Dan Burisch: Naaaaa.God will do that! 
            DonDep: He has entrusted some of it to you....for sure! 
            DonDep: You have the humility, we know 
            Dan Burisch: Just for looks! 
            Dan Burisch: 
            Dan Burisch: What he has entrusted with me over the last 24 hours 
            is a headache. 
            DonDep: yes, we have em too right now... 
            Dan Burisch: I found a match to the template the GP adds to a dead 
            cell...in an unusual place.... 
            Dan Burisch: inside of the low density areas of the GP protocells 
            as the Gp activates...that gave me one..unexpected. 
            DonDep: You see, someone told us something has to happen within this 
            24 hour period 
            Dan Burisch: No, the key is...nothing is going to happen (respecting 
            I think to what you refer) within this 24 period. 
            Dan Burisch: Here I set with head in hands.... 
            DonDep: that´s what we´re worried about. I´m just 
            a lowly citizen, looking for patterns.... 
            Dan Burisch: So am I! 
            DonDep: you see, I DO know how to quote you! 
            Dan Burisch: I have received a download of the GLP forum and list 
            updates from Skywatch. 
            [here Dan waved a ream of GLP downloads] 
            Dan Burisch: Ya. 
            Dan Burisch: Interesting stuff. 
            DonDep: This someone is the person that told me the name of your friend. 
            He must know something! 
            Dan Burisch: I read. 
            DonDep: wow! you should join the conversation directly! take a load 
            off my soul why doncha! 
            Dan Burisch: He hides lies under the truth. 
            Dan Burisch: Wish I could...very honestly. 
            Dan Burisch: Some are calling me.... 
            DonDep: is he part of the group that has been hiding the truth from 
            we citizens? 
            Dan Burisch: spewing nonsense...like that one. 
            Dan Burisch: Yes. 
            Dan Burisch: Others are asking whether I am starting a cult! 
            Dan Burisch: I find one thing interesting... 
            Dan Burisch: When the public (and mostly me) only knew of the possibility 
            of a catastrophe... 
            DonDep: ya, they think i´m a high priest or something too..... 
            we´re just humans trying to do the right thing, aye? 
            Dan Burisch: they didn´t come out with such "as steely 
            knives". 
            Dan Burisch: Once I said (what I have since found out) that such a 
            thing is NOT a certaintly, they want me ripped and torn. 
            Dan Burisch: I feel this is a reaction to some of the things that 
            they hate about their own lives, that they wish for a great change... 
            
            Dan Burisch: I would only hope that they would take their energies 
            off me, and do something positive for people around them. 
            DonDep: so how come there are real beings from our future? how does 
            that square? 
            Dan Burisch: Look... 
            Dan Burisch: All I know FOR SURE...I MEAN REALLY FOR SURE... 
            Dan Burisch: 1. Is that I have met one. 
            Dan Burisch: 2. That I have read what I have read about the DCTP. 
            
            Dan Burisch: 3. That the DCTP is taken as an article of Standard Operating 
            Procedures for people around me. 
            Dan Burisch: 4. and that my personal philosophy..together with... 
            
            Dan Burisch: well...we will just call it prayer in this medium... 
            
            Dan Burisch: tells me that it is real. 
            Dan Burisch: Others are very welcomed to disagree, or whatever. It´s 
            okay by me...doesn´t change my present 
            Dan Burisch: conditions, responsibilities, ect..... 
            Dan Burisch: sb I am getting rid of my plate. 
            Dan Burisch: Okay back. 
            DonDep: Does the DCTP explain then how it is possible for beings from 
            the future to come back in time to us, and also for us to change things 
            with our current free choice? How does that explain IMINVSBL´s 
            explanation of what they did with your parents and wife? 
            Dan Burisch: One message on the Skywatch list I LOVED!!!! 
            DonDep: (can you share?) 
            Dan Burisch: Well...most of my philosophical pursuits deal with esoteric/metaphysical/religious/faith 
            issues...the physics issues were related in the documents, and while 
            
            Dan Burisch: I have had some pretty good mathematical training (the 
            calculus and stuff like that)...the physics math...very dense in the 
            document I read, got by me. 
            Dan Burisch: What I know I know, what I don´t I don´t. 
            
            Dan Burisch: The DCTP was explained, in the non-discipline areas of 
            the books, as a stack of cards. 
            Dan Burisch: The more we muck around, the more cards get stacked into 
            our reality. 
            Dan Burisch: That I could get my mind around...but, as what the case 
            with the King Tutts at Shady Rest, 
            Dan Burisch: I was much more interested in two things... 
            Dan Burisch: 1. Where was my friend (the J-Rod) from and how. 
            Dan Burisch: 2. What issues involving the biological sciences were 
            affected by this so-called doctrine. 
            Dan Burisch: I spent more of my time absorbing that information. 
            Dan Burisch: Specifically issues involving evolutionary paradigm. 
            
            DonDep: to quote you again, "I don´t do things without 
            a reason". I don´t think this IMINVSBL told us this stuff 
            about your family without there being some kind of truth to it. Did 
            you read what he said on your printout there? 
            Dan Burisch: What I have taken from the DCTP is that when the J-Rods 
            and others transfer back in time, they are allowed to overlay 
            Dan Burisch: a temporary card onto the stack. 
            Dan Burisch: When they leave, as individuals, each card is successively 
            removed, while the memory of the event (card) remains with we and 
            they. We now, and they in the future. 
            Dan Burisch: Yes I have. 
            DonDep: In fall 1979, I underwent an experience I called then the 
            "Ultimate Paradox",.... 
            Dan Burisch: go ahead 
            DonDep: I was not abducted or anything like that, but I watched as 
            the physical planes of existence altered before me, like a Picasso 
            painting 
            Dan Burisch: Not joking, but nothing like DMT or anything like that? 
            
            DonDep: I was stunned and devastated, wanted to go out and tell the 
            world the secret of reality, but knew they would "put me away" 
            if I did so. 
            DonDep: no drugs at that time, Dan, no 
            DonDep: no conditions I have lol 
            DonDep: other than an overly-enquiring mind.... 
            Dan Burisch: Okay...is the leading to people in white coats on the 
            way for me? 
            Dan Burisch: Okay... 
            DonDep: love that smile! 
            DonDep: no, I realized that the only way to fight this thing was through 
            the "feeling"; call it love, the Holy Spirit, whatever.,,,, 
            
            Dan Burisch: Fight? 
            DonDep: that there was a good energy that animated the paradox, and 
            only by exercising it can we overcome it. I don´t know if it 
            has a bearing on this conversation, but I thought it important to 
            share that. I believe in transparency, and see no reason for the kind 
            of secrecy that has kept us in the dark. 
            DonDep: yes, the Ultimate Paradox was the devastating realization 
            that....ultimate comedy is ultimate tragedy, etc. and vice-versa. 
            
            Dan Burisch: Well...it does have bearing and believe it or not I can 
            illustrate the relevance from what I was going to say a moment ago...if 
            I may... 
            Dan Burisch: I believe the same...however... 
            Dan Burisch: we find people like...well...we will call her (or him) 
            Joni, and we will imagine her (or him) as being a contributor on Skywatch.... 
            
            Dan Burisch: This Joni took statements I said...such as "It helps 
            to know Hebrew"...and twist it to be an attack on all those that 
            don´t know Hebrew...Quite a brand of logic... 
            DonDep: exactly! go on! 
            Dan Burisch: The readings from the Rezial Book would be much easier 
            known 
            Dan Burisch: if one does know Hebrew...what was misread was the analysis 
            of my intention...I DON´T KNOW HEBREW!!! 
            DonDep: lol!!!! 
            Dan Burisch: I was talking, in reality, about myself. 
            Dan Burisch: Then... 
            DonDep: see, ultimate humility is ultimate nobility! 
            Dan Burisch: I was accused of misstating the Torah... 
            Dan Burisch: I was refereencing from Jewish mystical work...not the 
            Torah...I will not be freed to speak of the Torah...per say...aside 
            from an analysis of the Garden scenario that NO ONE wants to really 
            hear... 
            Dan Burisch: until after my 40th. Birthday... 
            DonDep: actually, a few of us WOULD like to hear of that...especially 
            in light of that snippet from your DNA page, or the Tree of Life with 
            the Voynich manuscript 
            Dan Burisch: It is on my 40th. Birthday that the two Rabbis with whom 
            I have the honor to consult, will present me with a copy of the Zohar. 
            
            Dan Burisch: sb thinking about this one my friend. 
            DonDep: "proceed at your own pace" {Bill Hamilton} 
            Dan Burisch: Is Bill there...or was that taken from a transcript...? 
            
            DonDep: from the transcript....really tiring! 
            DonDep: nope,,,, Bill´s not here. 
            Dan Burisch: Oh well...would have been nice. 
            Dan Burisch: I am under the impression that people have picked up 
            on the relevance of the Voynich Manuscript. 
            Dan Burisch: It seems to be, indeed, what was presented of it by the 
            IMINVSBL character. 
            DonDep: we have picked up that it was relevant, and urgently so by 
            the "Other" faction 
            Dan Burisch: Let me proceed this way... 
            Dan Burisch: If Adam was a real person... 
            Dan Burisch: then this real person would have some kind of genetic 
            structure...yes? 
            DonDep: yes, go on.... 
            Dan Burisch: Now...please understand this conversation is somewhat 
            diverting from Voynich (Roger Bacon´s document)... 
            Dan Burisch: it goes to some personal theory that 
            Dan Burisch: may be derived from what the J-Rod told me. This is to 
            say... 
            DonDep: referring to the "man" image in your J-Rod telepathic 
            explosion. 
            Dan Burisch: it may only be a reflection of what the J-Rod knew would 
            be my own musings... 
            Dan Burisch: Yes. 
            Dan Burisch: Are you familiar with how cells divide? basically? 
            DonDep: basically yes 
            Dan Burisch: eukaryotic ones. 
            Dan Burisch: Okay... 
            Dan Burisch: You are familiar with the sex chormosomes of human beings...that 
            is male: XY, female XX. 
            DonDep: (one of our ´motley crew´ can interpret if I can´t) 
            
            DonDep: yes, familiar 
            Dan Burisch: Prefer KISS! 
            Dan Burisch: Went to the concert a couple weeks ago! 
            DonDep: saw them live, you know! 
            Dan Burisch: plus Aerosmith. 
            DonDep: maybe you´d actually like our band´s music! 
            DonDep: we WILL rock you! 
            Dan Burisch: ? 
            DonDep: mindshaftrock 
            Dan Burisch: Queen, my favorite. 
            DonDep: mindshaftrock.com 
            Dan Burisch: CD available? 
            DonDep: all music free for uploading 
            DonDep: on site 
            Dan Burisch: I´ll get it. 
            DonDep: now back to the science 
            Dan Burisch: Are you familiar with legends about Lillith? 
            Dan Burisch: Not really science, maybe. 
            Dan Burisch: The alleged first wife of Adam? 
            DonDep: Jewish legend? 
            DonDep: yes, somewhat... 
            Dan Burisch: I believe so, also mixed into other cultures. 
            Dan Burisch: What if... 
            Dan Burisch: there was a tiny confusion as to what the Adam was... 
            
            DonDep: ??? 
            Dan Burisch: We know, from scripture... 
            DonDep: you mean, whether Adam was humanoid? 
            Dan Burisch: that Adam was set into a deep sleep and a rib was taken 
            from him to create Eve (life)... 
            Dan Burisch: No...he was human. 
            DonDep: the Bible story, literally, go on... 
            Dan Burisch: What if the rib was a fragment of an X chromosome, with 
            tinkering... 
            Dan Burisch: created to become a Y. 
            Dan Burisch: If you look closely at images from a human karyotype, 
            you will see the differences between the X and Y. 
            Dan Burisch: Adam may have been more female, taking the feminine of 
            the Shekinah, than most males would like to imagine at this stage 
            in our cultures. 
            Dan Burisch: Should Adam have possessed 3 X´s, with 1 dormant 
            as a so-called 
            Dan Burisch: Barr body. 
            DonDep: hermaphrodite?? 
            Dan Burisch: Not really. 
            Dan Burisch: Sexless. 
            Dan Burisch: as we would account for it today. 
            Dan Burisch: No need for such Knowledge then. 
            DonDep: as Akhenaton (sp?) supposedly was, in Egypt? 
            DonDep: "No need for such knowledge"....????? 
            Dan Burisch: and a rib (portion of a chromosome removed)...possibly...but 
            then there is also lore that Akhenaton (best I could do too! )...may 
            have been 
            Dan Burisch: related to the person known as Moses...but that I really 
            don´t know. 
            Dan Burisch: Why knowledge of sex? or sexual orientation, pleasure...etc...if 
            the whole world was oriented into a stability not requiring it. 
            Dan Burisch: ? 
            Dan Burisch: anyway... 
            DonDep: so, possible then that Adam was an anomaly? 
            Dan Burisch: Let´s posit something here... 
            DonDep: okay 
            Dan Burisch: Ready for the ride? 
            DonDep: ready! 
            Dan Burisch: Okay... 
            Dan Burisch: Let´s posit that future humanity, wanting so desparately 
            to preserve themselves after a catastrophe... 
            Dan Burisch: went back in time to the dawn of humanity. 
            Dan Burisch: Found our own progenitor and made those changes that 
            they felt would 
            Dan Burisch: ultimately (because of their arrogant beliefs in understanding 
            evolution and DNA)... 
            Dan Burisch: prevent their own problems. 
            Dan Burisch: So, a triplex, triple X (now under a duplex state known 
            as a superfemale...much different than the Adam triplex state)... 
            
            DonDep: triple DNA helix, or no? 
            Dan Burisch: made an alteration which caused a tranformation of Adam´s 
            state 
            Dan Burisch: from XXX to XYX. 
            Dan Burisch: Adam..yes...we...no. 
            Dan Burisch: Once the change had been made...and the "rib" 
            was taken from the one X chromosome, creating a Y chromosome... 
            Dan Burisch: The XYX individual separated to become one XX (one X 
            that had copied itself through an altered 
            Dan Burisch: cellular, machinery, leaving the new "female" 
            EVE in a duplex XX state, and the 
            Dan Burisch: progenitor, Adam, being left with an XY, in the duplex 
            state. 
            Dan Burisch: Thus, we have an XX female (as we are now) and an XY 
            male 
            Dan Burisch: (as we are now). 
            DonDep: how was this supposed to solve the problems of the post-catastrophe 
            future? 
            Dan Burisch: From there...the interbredding occurred, as what would 
            be necessary with limited population,... 
            DonDep: the hybrids? 
            Dan Burisch: YOU SEE WE MADE A MISTAKE TO THINK THAT IF WE TINKERED 
            WE COULD CHANGE WHAT 
            Dan Burisch: WE READ ALREADY HAPPENED...BUT IT WAS OUR OWN ACTIONS 
            THAT CREATED IT BECAUSE WE DIDN´T KNOW THAT THE FALL HADN´T 
            ALREADY HAPPENED. OOPS! 
            DonDep: wow...l 
            Dan Burisch: Thus, the serpent... 
            Dan Burisch: is actually the dark human heart that was from the future 
            
            DonDep: the ´dark´ human heart.... 
            Dan Burisch: that attempted to change a past that it didn´t 
            understand...thus causing our fall from grace 
            Dan Burisch: which it believed had already occurred. 
            Dan Burisch: The Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. 
            DonDep: and we have no way of rectifying it? except by witholding 
            the Lotus? 
            Dan Burisch: The serpent, then also symbolizes, the 
            DonDep: so that the ´dark´ heart from the future vanishes? 
            
            DonDep: sorry, go on. 
            Dan Burisch: strand of DNA from which we have become separated due 
            to our own arrange. Let me explain that... 
            Dan Burisch: The witholding of the Lotus is to get a signature first. 
            
            Dan Burisch: They (the rigue faction) ARE going to be in possession 
            of it...after they give us their John Hancock´s on 
            Dan Burisch: a little treaty. 
            Dan Burisch: They are bound by their culture, logically so, to never 
            break a treaty and they know it. 
            DonDep: which they don´t want to because of....why? 
            Dan Burisch: They already know that the working of the treaty will 
            preclude the use of the Lotus for further tampering with the timeline. 
            
            Dan Burisch: They are still making the mistakes that have traditionally 
            made. 
            Dan Burisch: Sure, they say they want it to solve the MGUS condition 
            they have...sure they say that... 
            Dan Burisch: but what they really feel is that they can return us 
            to the normal 
            Dan Burisch: state without prophecy being fulfilled. 
            DonDep: what mistakes are they still making? and what is the MGUS 
            condition? 
            Dan Burisch: They want to return us to the pre-fall state by its use. 
            
            DonDep: so they want to return us to a triple-X state to begin with? 
            Make up for their bad decision? 
            Dan Burisch: The MGUS (Monoclonal gammopathy of uncertain significance) 
            like condition that is associated with the peripheral and somewhat 
            genito-urinary system involved, neurodegenerative disorder. 
            Dan Burisch: They want to return Adam...foolishness...to both a triple 
            X, triplex DNA state. 
            DonDep: Why would that be bad, if it restores our full potential? 
            
            Dan Burisch: This is a change in the past. 
            Dan Burisch: cascade. 
            Dan Burisch: We have 
            DonDep: would that mean that our present selves would then dissolve? 
            
            Dan Burisch: a history of not trusting the One that put us here... 
            
            Dan Burisch: to muck more...they again won´t have what they 
            want...possibly. 
            DonDep: correct, we foolishly trust the False Ones, that keep us here 
            
            Dan Burisch: Well... 
            Dan Burisch: it may not be so bad, in comparison to mistrusting God 
            again. 
            Dan Burisch: or I shoudl say distrusting. 
            Dan Burisch: should 
            DonDep: but shouldn´t we be making that decision collectively? 
            
            Dan Burisch: The DCTP 
            DonDep: go ahead, the DCTP 
            Dan Burisch: indicates that...don´t worry about Journalism 101... 
            
            DonDep: lol!!!! 
            Dan Burisch: Yes, we should. 
            Dan Burisch: The DCTP 
            Dan Burisch: indicated that should the human made mechanisms be secured 
            
            Dan Burisch: our world will proceed along a basic timeline which will 
            bring us to a natural rejoining... 
            Dan Burisch: What I fear is that if the J-Rods get the Lotus, prior, 
            they will make a change that will backfire further, guaranteeing 
            Dan Burisch: our visit with 2012 to be a unpleasant one. 
            Dan Burisch: sb] 
            DonDep: so, what are they objecting to in the treaty right now? 
            Dan Burisch: Really nothing...aside from bumping up their abduction 
            numbers. 
            Dan Burisch: They are trying to pull this crap, around the treaty, 
            before it. 
            DonDep: these abductions....done for the sake of creating the hybrids 
            that will be the new bodies for the new race 
            Dan Burisch: Either they get the model early, or the cipher for Voynich. 
            
            Dan Burisch: No. 
            DonDep: they want the cipher then to make it themselves, if you won´t 
            give it to them? 
            Dan Burisch: They are conducting genetic experiments, on a longitudinal 
            basis, to watch drift. 
            Dan Burisch: Yes. 
            Dan Burisch: The genetic drif is what they are watching to find a 
            
            Dan Burisch: stop point or genetic stop code, where they think the 
            disorder actually began. Then they plan on returning to the past...foolishness 
            again...in order to make another change... 
            Dan Burisch: drift 
            DonDep: "Hodge-podge" hopscotching, so to speak?? 
            Dan Burisch: Yes, return to the past, make an early genetic change 
            with targeted viruses...and they think this will solve the 
            Dan Burisch: future disorder...but what they 
            Dan Burisch: are refusing to understand...in a typical human denial 
            pattern, is that the changes themselves...will be the author of destruction. 
            
            DonDep: but if they are from the future, they know how this will play 
            out, correct? Or, if you don´t 
            help them, they will vanish? 
            Dan Burisch: No, they feel they can cascade the future to their desire. 
            
            Dan Burisch: If you want the code here...here it is... 
            DonDep: the changes they want will be the author of their own destruction, 
            is THAT more correct 
            Dan Burisch: Adam and Eve took from the Tree of Knowledge... 
            Dan Burisch: They were bansihed from the Garden for it. 
            Dan Burisch: banished 
            DonDep: when they had the 3rd helix....then lost it... 
            DonDep: okay so far... 
            Dan Burisch: The Cherubim have been put in place to guard the way 
            to the Tree of Life. 
            Dan Burisch: If we are to take the Fruit from the Tree of Life we 
            would be as "gods." 
            DonDep: guarding against anyone, including from the future, coming 
            back and re-providing the 3rd strand 
            Dan Burisch: Controlling forward, backward, reality. 
            Dan Burisch: That´s right. 
            DonDep: okay...grokking... 
            Dan Burisch: grokking? 
            Dan Burisch: netspeak? 
            DonDep: pondering, too 
            Dan Burisch: Oh! 
            DonDep: grokking. from the Heinlein book. 
            DonDep: "understanding" 
            Dan Burisch: So, the code...who´s good, who´s not is easy... 
            
            Dan Burisch: Those that wish to grab the Fruit of the Tree of Life 
            are those that follow the same dark heart as in the Fall. 
            DonDep: easy to recognize who is good and not? mebbe for you! 
            Dan Burisch: Those that wish it kept as sacred... 
            Dan Burisch: not played with... 
            Dan Burisch: are following what the intentions of the Cherubim are, 
            as manifested as instructions from God to the Cherubim. 
            Dan Burisch: MAKE NO MISTAKE... 
            Dan Burisch: ANYONE, 
            Dan Burisch: ANYONE WISHING TO PLAY WITH THIS TO ALTER ANYTHING...AS 
            A SENTIENT BEING... 
            Dan Burisch: IS GRABBING FOR THE FRUIT OF THE TREE OF LIFE. 
            Dan Burisch: I am watching it. 
            Dan Burisch: Just watching. 
            DonDep: and how does this relate to our potential interaction with 
            our galactic neighbors, who are asking us to simply ask ourselves 
            if we want them to "show up?" are they connected to these 
            J-rods? 
            Dan Burisch: I am forbidden to attempt any genetic decoding whatsoever. 
            
            Dan Burisch: To be honest...I don´t know if that is real, fake, 
            or somewhere in between. 
            Dan Burisch: I can tell you what I think about the notion, though? 
            
            Dan Burisch: sb 
            DonDep: I am trying to understand what my role here is, since our 
            meeting was supposedly foretold in "the timeline", and I´m 
            sure it isn´t out of the goodness of their hearts.....yes, what 
            do you think of that notion? 
            Dan Burisch: I have been informed I have 30 minutes left. 
            DonDep: meaning, why do you think I have been allowed to speak with 
            you (let alone live without being ´erased´, like most 
            who raise ´stinks´) 
            Dan Burisch: Well..I see that fairly clearly. 
            Dan Burisch: We were obviously supposed to speak. 
            DonDep: I gathered lol 
            Dan Burisch: Should the world know of this theory? Of course! 
            Dan Burisch: Nothing wrong with that...but... 
            DonDep: So what should I call it, for you? 
            Dan Burisch: some have motives that would lend them in the thinking 
            that 
            Dan Burisch: if this becomes sufficiently known, together with information 
            about my life conditions, that I could be exposed into the public 
            in a manner that would allow them easy access to get it from me. 
            Dan Burisch: What do you mean..call it, for you? 
            DonDep: Is it possible, just possible, that Chi´ielah (name 
            only to fellow J-Rods, you and I [and GLP!]) was a service-to-other 
            entity, undercover with the group that is officially recognized, sent 
            to give you the Lotus? 
            DonDep: (Call the theory that you mentioned) 
            DonDep: (so the world would know of this theory....our ´purpose´, 
            supposedly) 
            Dan Burisch: Do I believe that the human heart, in the J-Rod, was 
            pure? Yes. 
            Dan Burisch: Did he lead me wretchedness along a path that would set 
            me face to face with the Lotus, yes. 
            DonDep: Thast´s what I´m saying. What if your friend was 
            undercover, good of heart, yet having to complete his mission from 
            within a selfish group that poses as the good group? 
            Dan Burisch: my 
            Dan Burisch: Possibly. 
            Dan Burisch: Matters not to me. 
            DonDep: and the ´good´ group has been left in the cold, 
            portrayed to you as the ´rogue´ group 
            Dan Burisch: No. 
            Dan Burisch: No, no, no, no. 
            DonDep: any other time, this would be only speculation, but not at 
            this time. 
            Dan Burisch: Of that I know the difference. 
            DonDep: okay, as long as you have considered that possibility 
            DonDep: (I always ask the next question why; gets me into trouble 
            as you can see) 
            Dan Burisch: Simply stated, the so-called rogue group wants to make 
            changes of the scope and size as the Fall of Humankind. 
            Dan Burisch: Hearts are good things...but the Bible does teach that 
            a fool will trust his heart. 
            Dan Burisch: We have taken knowlege and must know live with it. 
            Dan Burisch: knowledge 
            DonDep: I understood that. I´m from outside the ´box´, 
            so now that I´ve mentioned it and you´ve considered it, 
            okay. I just know that the ´bad´ guys have been in control 
            for far too long. 
            Dan Burisch: But I love my heart too. 
            Dan Burisch: True. There are many that I previously called "close 
            acquaintances" that now want me to 
            Dan Burisch: just hand things over. 
            DonDep: I trust you Dan. 
            Dan Burisch: This isn´t a test of a rat in a maze here...the 
            scope goes beyond just handing over data. I realize that. 
            Dan Burisch: Be careful with trust...you don´t know me. Trust 
            God. 
            Dan Burisch: But thank you. 
            Dan Burisch: 
            Dan Burisch: I am just a person trying to do his best with what he 
            has in front of him. 
            Dan Burisch: I fight my personal battles... 
            Dan Burisch: as does everyone... 
            DonDep: So if all humans actually looked inside themselves, lost their 
            fear for a moment, and said "yes, I´m tired of the ´bad 
            guys´ running things behind the scenes, I want them all -good 
            and bad neighbors- to show up and be transparent" you wouldn´t 
            have a problem with that? 
            Dan Burisch: but I have to rely on the One True God to help me with 
            this...otherwise I am picking a fight with Satan...and only a fool 
            of a human would do that. 
            DonDep: You would support disclosure so that we can all walk more 
            in the light? 
            Dan Burisch: No, I pray for that. 
            Dan Burisch: Of course. 
            DonDep: Thank you for that! Hallelujah! 
            Dan Burisch: Of course... 
            Dan Burisch: you understand what you are saying? 
            DonDep: Now, for a quick read on chemtrails: what are they really? 
            How are they supposed to change our DNA? 
            DonDep: (yes, understand) 
            Dan Burisch: That came from left field1 Well...Raindancer is over. 
            
            Dan Burisch: ! 
            DonDep: great to hear it! no more chemtrails then? at least not DNA-related? 
            
            DonDep: stargates: size and makeup? 
            Dan Burisch: That is the only real part of the project of which I 
            was aware...unless we are talking about things from a decade ago, 
            in which case I know nothing! Just like Sgt. Schultz, Nothing! Nothing! 
            
            Dan Burisch: 2 kinds...natural and man made. 
            DonDep: 
            DonDep: man-made ones are bad, correct? why? 
            Dan Burisch: The natural ones, like the one at Frenchman, Sedona, 
            etc. are various sized, depending on whether they are being opened 
            by natural (cosmic) or by unnatural (electromagnetic pressure) means. 
            
            DonDep: they explain the KB-50 disappearance from 1950s to Dec 21, 
            2001 in Greenland? 
            Dan Burisch: The manmade ones, such as Alice´s Looking-Glass, 
            was about 20 or so feet in diameter if I am remembering exactly right...saw 
            it only a couple of times. 
            Dan Burisch: Not within my knowledge base.. 
            DonDep: where was it? Similar to the one in Iraq we´re looking 
            for? And why again must we destroy them? 
            Dan Burisch: No need to know... 
            Dan Burisch: The one I saw was at the Shady Rest. 
            DonDep: I was reaching on that one anyway.....lol where is Shady Rest? 
            Nevada? 
            Dan Burisch: The one (of the 2) in Iraq, was found not that far from 
            Baghdad. 
            Dan Burisch: S4 
            DonDep: what IS on the other side of the stargates though? 
            DonDep: "divine beings?" (from one of our forum) 
            Dan Burisch: Depending on what wormhole through which we pass, and 
            depending on what power (this is physics stuff mainly that I don´t 
            understand) 
            Dan Burisch: is presented to the manmade devices...it determines the 
            destination. As for the natural ones... 
            Dan Burisch: that depends on what part of space we are in. 
            Dan Burisch: They branch, like a tree, from what I understand. 
            DonDep: any relation to HAARP quadrupling its power recently, and 
            going for a 3x test tomorrow? 
            Dan Burisch: So, a proper "pulling" from another side can 
            determine the detination of an object sent from a point of origin. 
            
            Dan Burisch: NAAAAAAAAAAAAA! 
            DonDep: I saw that!!! 
            Dan Burisch: You know HAARP is soon to be under the control of...a 
            foreign unit? 
            DonDep: oops....me not in the need-to-know loop there, I see! 
            DonDep: "foreign"? 
            DonDep: as in, ET? 
            Dan Burisch: No, as in Illuminated. 
            DonDep: ouch. that´s what worries me. 
            Dan Burisch: They can play with the natural ones all they like...won´t 
            matter there. 
            DonDep: worries many on the forum, I´m sure. 
            Dan Burisch: The power of the holes on the galactic plane will turn 
            on ALL gates here, when we near the transition point. 
            DonDep: Is that point nearing? 
            Dan Burisch: Well...when BJ was here in Nevada...I advised 
            Dan Burisch: Give or take near 2012. 
            DonDep: We were told that today is a major deadline of some sort.... 
            
            Dan Burisch: For someone other than me, that´s for sure. 
            DonDep: advised her to move to Canada? She did, you know.... 
            Dan Burisch: The book they have in their hands says they had the Lotus/Cipher 
            in about 7 minutes... 
            DonDep: from now? 
            Dan Burisch: 0100 Nov 16 UTC. 
            Dan Burisch: Ya...what a bitch huh? 
            Dan Burisch: 
            DonDep: wow! the history of our future, down to the next 7 minutes 
            ahead of this moment! 
            Dan Burisch: I think my calendrical time math is right...I was told 
            5:00pm (1700) my time. 
            DonDep: Well, if we´re talking, you won´t be giving it 
            to them, aye? 
            Dan Burisch: History books are written by both losers and winners. 
            
            Dan Burisch: That decision was made long ago. 
            DonDep: That´s what I was advised of last night, when told the 
            Nazi version was similar to the IMINVSBL version 
            DonDep: in that they were alternative realities 
            Dan Burisch: sb 
            Dan Burisch: Security is moving in, closer to my residence. They usually 
            stay across the riverbed with a few rovers over here, but 
            Dan Burisch: they want to make sure no intrusions. Good guys. 
            Dan Burisch: IMINVSBL is juts like a Nazi. 
            DonDep: You still have that 12 monkeys decal on your door? 
            Dan Burisch: 3 minutes. 
            Dan Burisch: No. 
            DonDep: How? we need to know 
            Dan Burisch: That was removed after it became recognized on the net. 
            
            Dan Burisch: They think themselves better than we, now. 
            DonDep: How did he know who to rearrange in your life to make the 
            future turn out the way it has? 
            Dan Burisch: They believe themselves to be a master race. 
            DonDep: But they´re us, right? 
            Dan Burisch: He didn´t, that´s bullshit. 
            Dan Burisch: Yes, just like the Nazi´s were. 
            DonDep: Okay, that bit about Harry and J was incorrect then? 
            Dan Burisch: No. 
            Dan Burisch: It was substantially true...lies under truth. 
            DonDep: So the only thing right he knew was Chi´ielah´s 
            name then? 
            Dan Burisch: Promises are promises. 
            DonDep: And what can we say to those that frame the whole ET question 
            in terms of ´fallen angels´ 
            Dan Burisch: May God bless you Don Dep...trust in Him. 
            DonDep: and may He/She bless you too, Doctor Dan...
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